songtune

It is discovered that music have medicinal value. It gives relief from stress and also cures some serious diseases. So, music will stay for ever.

 

BigPeople

I think the youth do play an important part, it's also very important that they're exposed to various forms of music not just the one. It's interesting because my musical background was predominately rap, but then as i grew older i started to discover classical, soul, rock, jazz even j-pop/rock! i believe music becomes a stagnant force when collectively people decide to stick to the same genre, scared to stray outside the bounderies.

ollwalla02

yo its about education man. gotta keep music alive in da schoolz

Ourobouros

i'll keep music alive for my part by making my music with my band. of course this is on the assumption i make something of my career musically

too much music isn't real, authentic stuff. what i do is, and in this way i will contribute to real music making in my lifetime.

Bino

1. What do you think would be a great way to make sure that music stays alive?

I'll make survey.Then I'll write those song that my clients want

2. What can we do to prevent music becoming stagnant and not inventive, never reinventing itself or creating new genres, instruments, etc...

Hmmm.. revised it in a way that people will love it again and will got their interest to those music.

3. If you were handed $1,000,000 dollars to give to others to help keep music alive, how would you spend it? How could you most effectively spend it to make a difference in other peoples' lives and do the most for the future of music?

Wow.. big money huh!Well, i will build an school for music and it's exclusively to those less fortunate that loves music so that they can share their talent.

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wadekobedog

Make your own music like i did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBNcgLeJXQM

ITS THE ONLY WAY TO KEEP MUSIC ALIVE

KOOLBD

Music will last as long as the human race. While musical styles and artists come and go, "The Beat Goes On."

Sam M

we need to have music a more important and vital part of the curriculum at SCHOOLS..... teach kids about music, teach them about different genres and teach them how to surf the net to get this music...... as far as the record companies go they need to stop selling the same crap over and over and radio stations need to stop playing a "new song" 50 times a day

High Standards

long time...

I just saw a video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rwXgli2WyU

Youtube is terribly aweful, but Google takes you to its other site before anything else.

anyway. the kid clearly has a very good relationship with his rich parents, because youl notice hes playing it on a superstrat.

So the topic of this thread:

Its just wrong.

Its plain fascism.

I grew up in extreme, destitute poverty, and the most expensive guitar Ive had is the Encore Vintage, which is about 150 dollars. I started guitar as a kid and Ive been playing for a good 16 years now.

Yet put this kid with the ibanez 7 string superstrat up against me, a seasoned guitarist, with a shitty buzzing amp and an Encore fucking Vintage, and who do you think is gonna get the chicks?

The music Industry has transformed into one enormous man-bashing, fascist institution, but these days, it looks like the instrument industry has gone the same way. It really is about how much money youve got, and it really is about paying it to sound better than the poor kid.

A real guitarist doesnt even Know what a "superstrat" is. Hes a guitarist, not a technology consutant. Hendrix, Knopfler, de Lucia and so on didnt need all this suburban-kid junk. They had an old fashioned thing called Talent.

And if you really are as good as they think you are, youll be ok going head to head against me on an encore vintage.

I ll shred you to pieces.

Baphomet

Amen brother...

It doesn't end with instruments though these days, as a ton of these bigger name hardcore bands even admit, it goes to vocals now too. They sell pedals with auto-pitch correction now for singers- excuse me wanna-be singers. So kids can plug into these pedals and suddenly sing in key and also it will adjust to the right place when they miss notes. And most of these new bigger name hardcore bands even admit to using them!! So people like me with actual talent can have some tone deaf talentless idiot singing just like me and get all the undeserved sense of accomplishment with no work or talent. The worst part is most people don't seem to care that this is happening!!! And of course the corporations don't care as long as they are making millions.


Welcome to the wonderful beauty of this bubblegum plastic shitbox they call the music scene of today...

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athandpr

Will music end? Highly doubt it. Not to sound like a broken record, but as long as the human race is functional it will continue. But I think a more important questions or idea is: What quality of music should last and what should just be a fad?

For instance, I think that bands and composers like Tool, Miles Davis, Igor Stravinsky, Yes, etc. should be given the most prominence. Yet on the other hand someone like Brittney Spears, in my opinion, should not of been allowed in public. Now this is an extreme exaggeration, but it represents my utter dislike of her music.

From my own pondering, I believe that there several factors that put the music industry as whole in the position it is in.

1) The demise or the restriction of the entrepreneur spirit. In the 1950s and 1960s there were many record labels, unlike today were we have three, correct me if I am wrong, major labels and very few small labels that can barely stand on their own. It is this restriction that denied many new music to take center stage.

2) The constant bending the consumer/fan over the desk and repeatedly rapping them. This has to end, even though it is starting to end, the bands and labels need to treat their audience like gold. Is there any reason why a label/band needs to charge $20.00 for a CD? Or $100 for a ticket? I run into this problem with stores/distribution, although I understand everyone need to make a living, but beating the consumer over the head is not the answer.

3) Artists and bands need to take artistic chances. I get many CDs from bands that attempt to sound like some main stream acts. The indie bands that I listen are different. They are not different because they strive to be different, it is their musical personality that shines. And it is this last facet that I keep listening to the indie bands that I do . . .

4) Put music back into public education. Someone early mentioned this. I believe that having both music and sports are goods things. They cover the two basics of the social part of human beings emphasis on group activity (sports) and individuality (music). These are just general definations. Remember there is to 'I' in TEAM. And there are more reasons to keep both sports and music in school, than this.

Ok, I'm tired, there is more that I wanted to write, but time to go to bed.


Later.

answerervice45

Our society (at least in the US) does nothing but turn us into unthinking, uncaring, unfeeling automatons. Because we get NO REWARD for thinking, caring or feeling--except to be told, "Sit back down and take that shit, we don't care what you think--and you shouldn't either."

But we have to realize all of the Rules started with a goal--you have to ask, what was that goal??? Most institutions don't start out saying, "Hmm, how can we do this the WORST way possible???" No, they are trying to SOLVE a problem--but you need to realize its YOUR DUTY to continue this, to try to help improve how things are done. Your opinion matters.

Thanks & Regards

sam

Uncut Rubber

I say have the Federal Trade Commission take an axe to the major record labels and cut them into small pieces again. Decca, Columbia, Polydor, Stax, Electra, Atlantic, Harvest, Neat, Verve, Chess... all were record labels with a heart and a soul, which have now either disappeared or been gobbled up by behemoth conglomerates.
These conglomerates are obviously unhealthy for music, because they have excessive power over which bands break through or not - if there were dozens of major labels, like in the old days, a label that turned down a promising band would know that there were plenty of competitors who might make big money by signing them. But now there are only four major labels, and if they all turn you down, you can forget your dreams of glory.


Record labels refuse to take any chances nowadays because overall profits are falling. One of the reasons for this is free downloading of music from sites like the Pirate Bay.
So, labels should look to what they can offer which downloaded music can't. What makes actual records preferable over downloaded music is the idea of actually possessing the physical object, with album cover, liner notes and all. But for me, this "physical-object" feeling is pretty meagre with CDs, which are digital and soulless, and disappear into a tray when you play them. So why not reintroduce vinyl records and cassette tapes as the primary mediums for music? They are much more pleasing to hold and look upon than CDs, so people will actually notice the difference between music they buy and music they download.
Another idea would be to significantly cut production budgets for major artists. Most contemporary songs sound sterile and artificial because they have been heavily overproduced; every now and then I hear a modern song whose chord progression, rhythm and lyrics I like, yet which does not appeal to me for precisely this reason.


Now we get to the reason why I decided to finally post in this thread: my idea for a new radio format.
This idea grew out of the slogan "Serious Radio" which the Dutch radio station 3FM uses; I thought that this slogan was bullshit, because they play mostly mainstream pop-rock, and it got me thinking about what kind of radio station I would call "serious radio".
I came up with an answer to this: a format that would take "album-oriented rock" to a whole new level by actually playing (vinyl) albums in their entirety, rather than loose tracks. Of course, the music played would also be "serious": think Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Jimi Hendrix and The Velvet Underground. Between two albums, the DJ would say a short word about the previous album and elaborately discuss the next.
Then I started thinking about what else such a station would do; one can't play only complete albums 24/7, after all... So I thought, why not invite up-and-coming bands to play a set live on air? The idea of live music on the radio is as old as radio itself, but it mostly focuses on established artists. Letting obscure bands play live on air would give them much-needed exposure. Better yet, the DJs themselves could occasionally give a small concert in the studio, provided they can all play an instrument.


Well, I write music... but you already knew that.
As for my band, we're not signed yet, but watch us. TTL will rock the world!

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Baphomet

A little off subject but, those big labels are nothing more than monopolies which are antithesis to americas so called free market economy... And supposedly unconstitutional. Ok I won't rant...

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Uncut Rubber

Yeah, I read all about it in Naomi Klein's No Logo... it describes how Reagan 'yanked the teeth out of the FTC', opening the door for the creation of mind-bogglingly large conglomerates in the music and media industries - mergers which would have been illegal until the 1970s.

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MusicMan

Uncut, those are excellent ideas and I'm glad you shared them here. I would love to hear a radio station like that. I suppose it would be possible on a format such as satellite radio or webcasts, where you could pay the bills with subscriptions instead of ads. You could introduce an upcoming album, play it, and maybe even take a few calls after you play it and have people discuss the finer points of the album or how it changed their life or whatever, intelligent comments and not just "zomg I friggin love dat album I got stoned for the first time while listening to it rawk on dood!". I'd listen to something like that for sure.

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Uncut Rubber

Well, that's a good idea. It would strengthen the connection to the listeners, and I like the idea of introducing taking calls to music radio - taking calls on air is usually done during anything but music.
It would also be a nice idea, I think, to alternate old and new music by simply playing a classic album, then a contemporary album, then a classic album, then a contemporary album again, et cetera.

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bonhamisgod

this is me first thread reply (this is a great question)

i think about this all the time, im a senior in high school and i think the music ed. programs need a lot of work. first of all my school offers very little programs, we are only have band, marching band, chorus, music theory, music history, and jazz band. (i'm in all but chorus). not only do we not offer enough but thar is not much, if any about experimenting with our own music.

i also think that to really keep the music alive we need 2 find a way 4 music 2 not be about money, money has destroyed popular music.

we also need more music clubs like LA's sunset strip had in the 80's. (ware i live there is nun all the clubs use dj's)

ps. i have dyslexia and dysgraphia, i used spell check but there is probably some mistakes still so bear with me lol.


Musicman edit: I actually used the spellchecker and it fixed a lot of errors with your post. Does having dyslexia also make you incapable of using your shift key to capitalize letters? Does dyslexia cause you to type "2" instead of "to"? Just curious.

russelA

keeping the music a live for me is to make great music, not just music but music with meaning. and keeping the music industry alive is not to dwell on piracy!

bassrocks

Music will always be around. It talks to our hearts and souls. As long as there's people to listen, music CANNOT be stopped. The whistle of the wind through the trees is music.

Plus when I compose, I take different instrument and put them together to make it new and interesting.

allgoodseats

Yes, music will always be with us. We've been making music and instruments for thousands of years so I don't think music will ever die in that sense either. The real concern I think is how to keep it new and not becoming some commercialized entity.

1. What do you think would be a great way to make sure that music stays alive?

The future lies with our youth so as a lot of other people have said start teaching children music and how to be creative with it.

2. What can we do to prevent music becoming stagnant and not inventive, never reinventing itself or creating new genres, instruments, etc...

I think a great way to do this is extend support and recognition to independent bands. They are usually the ones who are more on-edge or trying out new styles. I mean mainstream bands will occasionally but the independent bands have nothing to lose so they are willing to take more risks.

3. If you were handed $1,000,000 dollars to give to others to help keep music alive, how would you spend it? How could you most effectively spend it to make a difference in other peoples' lives and do the most for the future of music?

Again I would extend some support to independent bands I thought we're doing something different that could change music but wouldn't be heard by enough people to really make an impact. Also I would try to change the way music is taught. I think its great that students do learn about music but there are no classes (in most cases) where they can express themselves through music (besides school band).

4. Do you or anyone you know teach music? Write music? in the music business? run businesses that donate to worthy causes? work at a musical instrument retailer? a member of a signed band? member of the press? could help in any other way?

I don't really know anyone but I'm willing to help out any way I can.

tennismaster

Get rid of rap music

allgoodseats

LOL.

While I'm inclined to instantly agree, I'm not sure ridding one style of music will really make music better overall. I'm not completely opposed to the style of rap itself (only a little :p) just the lyrics that are in today's rap songs. I think that its a genre that could be greatly improved and turned around if the artists were willing to make it better. And some are - but you still have others that are trying to push it in what looks like will only end in a downward spiral.

RickenbackerBassPlayer

I agree on some points. I for one do not like rap, I think it is a little (A lot) talentless.

However, because 'good music' is all opinion, there will always be bad music to some people. I think music needs to change within what we have. I mean, we have rap, and if they somehow made it a little more musical and put more emotion into it then I would accept in as a genre. I see people talking when I listen to rap, but when I listen to, say Rise Against, every word that guy sings bleeds with emotion, and he isn't even a great singer.

Main point. Getting rid of rap won't change music, but I think music should change with what we have.

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Stringbender

Ok, one thing that has to happen is the homogenizing of today's music has GOT to stop. It is doing nobody any good. Having a dozen bands that all use auto-tune on their vocals, the same guitars, the same amps, the same producers, the same group of songwriters helping to write their material..
add all of these things up and what do you get : ONE BAND THAT WAS ORIGINAL WITH THIS CONCEPT AND HUNDREDS OF LOWER-TALENT CLONES.
Now, perhaps I should not be so harsh and say "lower talent"- really, there is a great possibility that these other artists have tremendous talent and are just going where the money is- the easy route. But don't we have enough of this? How many do we need that are all the same? Radio and the charts are completely overrun with this stuff and it is tiring -the lyrics are the same recycled lyrics from artist-to artist, even a lot of the names are similar (for a while it was just put a number in the band name) so I get lyrics that do nothing for me the 100th time around, another PRS guitar through a dual-rectifier amp tone, vocals where everybody sounds like the next guy and the backing vocals are exactly the same..
it's time for originality to come back into music. For folks to stand up and say "hey, maybe I can't hit all of the notes perfectly without auto tune on my voice- but this is me- this is genuine" it's time for a different guitar and amp tone- maybe the intonation won't be perfect, or the production work won't be as "spot on". it's time for something brash, something refreshing..
IT IS TIME FOR SOMETHING REAL, HONEST AND GENUINE.
PLEASE- not the same old boring crap!!! take a close look at something folks-at least in the area where I live in the USA, country music is going through the roof and rock is practically obsolete save for the same bands that have been pumping it out- WHY..because folks are getting tired..they want something that is real, honest and genuine and they are looking wherever they can find it.They are getting bored and the same old Nickelback sound again and again and again- regardless of the band- the sound is the same.. It has GOT to stop,
The mass-produced "teen pop idol" thing has got to stop as well.. it is just as insulting to people's intelligence as the mindless -cookie-cutter rock- I mentioned above.. the world, the future demands better.
Real, Honest, Genuine. Now let's give real, honest and genuine.
enough of my nightly rant. My God, this sounds like a political-rally-speech
"Stringbender for Office: Because it's Time we get Real, Honest and Genuine"
(also sounds like a beer ad) any politicians that take this- I want my money.
OK somebody give me a "thanks" on this so I know I am not the only one thinking this way..the music part- not the running for office part..

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