Thread to Generally Express In A Non-Spoken Manner

And not to rant nor to complain. Not to give opinion or critique. Just to speak, non-verbally. Express, you are not expected to say anything relevant but that doesn't make your effort pointless. Less heavy on meaning, no. But flow, connect, let your words go in a set direction. Even if it is no direction at all. If all I did was babble, I'd not have gotten anywhere in life. And yet, I am, in fact, nowhere. I can be found, located and re-located. I find things myself, mostly by accident. My favorite things are the things that stand out as I or they or it is passing by. A sharp contrast to the blur that life becomes. Presently unfolding future makes every moment past. Every moment passes, no matter how hard we try to grasp. I find myself at a crossroads in life. I am disgusted by so much, yet, the littlest things bring me euphoria. I have horrible habits and no motivation, yet I keep on moving forward. Human-Being as a noun and not a verb. I be. Human-Being as an action. I am. And I and you and we all are a time-traveling entity. Constantly traveling through time until we die. But this isn't a topic about death, just as much as it isn't about life. Birth and death are two points that we exist between. It's the in-between that's taken for granted. At this point in life, I'm dumb-founded by stupidity. It's everywhere, on a constant basis. I'm not looking for anything in any place, so no place I go or seek solitude in is "wrong". Just because I'm not right, doesn't make me wrong. Just because I'm wrong doesn't mean I cannot ever right what's left to be interpreted as such. As right or wrong does. As we continue. We all exist at the same point in time until our lives exhaust. I don't care if there is anything after or another place to go, or if it all repeats endlessly without our knowing or our ability to acknowledge. I find it disturbing that humans lack a general compassion. A drive to help for the knowledge that is gained in the process. My head is not a mess. I see clearly. As it stands, I've come to terms with and made sense of existence. In my own ways I've justified my beliefs and I will not preach. I will interpret and adjust as I see fit and if it calls to do it accordingly. And so, I end this thought with

With continuation in mind. Lately I've been finding the only thing that holds a person back is lack of confidence. I'm more inclined to believe it's not a lack of confidence in just themselves, but a lack of confidence in others' abilities to understand. Or, their willingness to give effort to the understanding of a different point of view. I will continue, as long as it is appropriate. I hope that others join the cause, the cause for movement. Nothing can be changed by one person's words alone, maybe not even by a collective response, but where is the effort? I struggle with nearly everything I do or have done. Even if I've come to excel at something, I still have not found anything that comes to me effertlessly. Maybe it's my own subconsious; maybe I taught myself to have a hard time doing things so that the end result was and is, more rewarding. A satisfactory laugh to guide my mind to a warmer, brighter place. A place of mutual understanding, with no demands for excellence. An expectence for acceptance of the facts placed so plainly in front of us as a race of like-minded individuals who've been sucked into a society that shuns the different perspective. So how does one become a figure-head? I think manipulation drives most persons who end up in a position of influence. The drive to manipulate through words, carefully chosen so that everyone can understand. Carefully spoken so that clarity is obtained, presence is felt, comfort is attained. I see right through the fake. So why can't anyone else? Is the effort someone puts into trying to fit in a cause for social acceptance? Willingness to comply, finding comfort in understanding. But most do not understand. It's always a harsh response to a wave of opposition. Most who oppose are oppressed. So much so that they've been driven to a point of emotional response. What happened to good old fashioned conversation? To a mutual agreement of minds? So often it becomes a topic of who is smarter or better. Whomever is most fit to "lead" shall be chosen by the people who are most manipulated in the process of greed. The greed to force influence upon those most vulnerable. Those most vulnerable are all of us, especially in an overpopulated and divided world. I'm not talking culteral barriers, language barriers or literal barriers. I'm not talking isolation, we are all isolated upon the earth. The United States of America accidentally landed on the moon in an effort to scare Communist Russia away from nuclear tactics and inadvertedly caused a premature "Space-Age". We cannot just shoot ourselves into the nothingness that is "Space". We must first, build our way into our own atmosphere so that one day, we can just step outseide into the nothingness that is existence.

Is no one going to attempt to add to this content? No one has a willingness to place their thoughts within this topic? Right and wrong go hand in hand as it is, and as it is, there really isn't that much difference between the two. And if there really is no difference between right and wrong, up and down, forward, backward, they are all merely placeholders for actions deemed as such by society, why not attempt to, even if somewhat awkwardly, partake in this general vagueness?

Personally, I'd love to read the ramblings of another person's mind.

And lo and behold, I'm yet again rambling, rambling, rambling amidst the only company I see: Myself. Plainly and clearly, this seems to be the case more often than not, though I've grown used to this kind of conversation. The kind where I often laugh and make expressive points to myself. Only this time I know there are people reading, listening in a way. Say you, will you say that you never have a day in which you have things on your mind? General expression is not an exhausting task. Daunting in it's intimidating context, perhaps, but this is not a lacking void. I see things clearly as they come to me, making perfect sense and forming perfect shapes within the context of my head, my mind, and though I find it hard to put these shapes to words, I do try, for communication is the thing I find most lacking in our society. Aside from the inability for most people to actually try to speak for themselves. What's funny and alarming about my generation is that they are quick to judge, quick to point out mistakes and laugh at another person's faults, while they themselves are faulted and corrupted into only having a singular opinion that mostly and seems to only apply to everything they come across. Opinionated society with a serious lack of actual understanding. I'm not saddened by this, just dumbfounded and perhaps, slightly frustrated.

Originally Posted by Dynamic Threads

And lo and behold, I'm yet again rambling, rambling, rambling amidst the only company I see: Myself. Plainly and clearly, this seems to be the case more often than not, though I've grown used to this kind of conversation. The kind where I often laugh and make expressive points to myself. Only this time I know there are people reading, listening in a way. Say you, will you say that you never have a day in which you have things on your mind? General expression is not an exhausting task. Daunting in it's intimidating context, perhaps, but this is not a lacking void. I see things clearly as they come to me, making perfect sense and forming perfect shapes within the context of my head, my mind, and though I find it hard to put these shapes to words, I do try, for communication is the thing I find most lacking in our society. Aside from the inability for most people to actually try to speak for themselves. What's funny and alarming about my generation is that they are quick to judge, quick to point out mistakes and laugh at another person's faults, while they themselves are faulted and corrupted into only having a singular opinion that mostly and seems to only apply to everything they come across. Opinionated society with a serious lack of actual understanding. I'm not saddened by this, just dumbfounded and perhaps, slightly frustrated.

Not to mention the billion or so people on facebook who have such low self esteem that they spend all day posting mundane shit hoping that someone will pretend to give a flying fuck what they had for breakfast and comment on it. Getting friends to do this for you probably requires many hours of you spending your time pretending to give a flying fuck about helping them choose what color of socks to wear, or telling them that their horrible karaoke is so good that they'll have record contracts next week. This generation has so much potential but texting and social networking has turned a vast majority of them into attention whores who would rather spend their time trying to improve their popularity and conformity rather than developing their minds and spirits.

Now that I've dipped my toes in the water I may return with my swim trunks and do a cannonball later. I tend to be the guy who never posts anything of substance without editing and revising. Perhaps it would be a healthy endeavor to open up the throttle a little and let things flow. I've seen miracles happen due to this type of communication in the real world, so who cares if my post gets seen by the wrong people or cached forever by google. This is normally where I would change my mind and delete my post but I am instead hitting the submit reply button, and throwing all caution to the wind.

Getting into the habit of having good habits once again. However, this doesn't allow for much time to devote to general expression (non-sense). It is hard to not get caught up in the flow of human habit. The flow of life and society's structure upholding is an undertow that traps your mind. I'm finding it hard to find my own mind. It has become generalized once again, which isn't such a bad thing. I've opened it back up to influence. Which feels nice. This hasn't been reflected through my music, though. I affectionately call it a chronic writers' block. I do know that at some point I'll start wailing out in a new tuning or on a new riff that spawns more than I thought it would. Which also feels nice. I see a set direction for once. I'd like it to go one way, but this new direction I am seeing is not so bad, if only for the fact that I'm actually seeing a set direction for once. It is comforting. Comforting blurring of the mind. Haha. A new take on the spin of things. Funny how I'm almost writing my way into a set direction and a stable way of doing things. In this exact moment, I realize, my hope is coming back. At once so strong, it was. It was lost for what I thought was for good. You go through things in life that bend or break your mindset in a way you can't foresee. But when you once again see clearly, as far as your own path goes, you can picture vague possibilities that come in from the side. Do not stray from your path. Adjust it as you need but drastic attempts to change will set a course for disaster.

I get the general message when it is one communicating that you shouldn't give up, that who cares what people think, you'll get yours. Not just what goes around comes around kind of generalized bullshit but actual hey! You know what? I've been there but now I'm here in a place of wise perspective so I have earned that right to say don't pay any attention to the bullocks, if you are true to you, you're in your own right. But isn't that just blatantly assinine? True to you is truth in nothing if there is no literal support. And that's literal bullshit. If in a position of assumed respect from those at a lower status, in most cases, the earned place is almost treated as an unstable territory. The figurehead is naturally defensive and mostly unwilling to take on an apprentice whom gained knowledge can be passed on to collaboratively. Instead, in most cases, this collectd data is whored within the singular mind. Now, I am a firm believer in seeking out response instead of assuming answers will be openly presented.

If you want to find something in someone, you must actively seek it out. But in today's age, there's only so much you can do to present yourself. Since when did people become so bothered by open and ongoing communication? There seems to be no effort put forth into maintaing a position of excellence. Instead, placement and status are aquird and kaput goes a srive to further not for the sake of gloating about achievement but for the sake of mutually beneficial relations. will edit into one post and continue appropriately

edit: lol oh wait can't delete a post

It has been a while since I last wrote. Since I last wrote I had been hoping for motion. Forward motion. Instead (comma) it has been the same kind of motion as always. It is a wine and Pabst kind of night. A kind of night when I say oh hay. Always a a promise for the future, to the future. But we only exist in the present. I want a promise for the present for once.

What is this?

Originally Posted by steelstrings

What is this?

Get out of my thread if you are going to be a [insert offensive word here], kthx. See, you have provided a perfect example of the lack of intelligence and sophistication ever so lacking in today's social class. You are exactly the type of [insert insult here] who ruins the idea of a forum and the idea of music. When the [profanity] is this kind of [insult] going to stop? Go sign onto twitter or something and stop [profanity] up my thread.

EDIT: And seriously, [insult], get out of the thread if you aren't going to add to it in a respectable manner.

Further the time is between bursts of creativity. Or maybe this is how it always has been. Maybe how it always will be. In retrospect, perhaps. I see things changing but most people remain the same. They simply exist in a state for an extended period of time with very little motivation to change. I see this in the group of people that were once called my 'friends'. I am 26. In the past 3 years, I have stopped talking to and seeing a lot of my peers whom I hung out with and saw in the years following high school. We all just drifted. Everyone is too busy hating each other to get along. But I noticed, or I have noticed since seeing several of them recently that I have changed more times over than any of them realize and they don't realize this because they are all exactly the same as they were in high school, or those first few years following. Same mannerisms, same style of dress, same taste in music, same opinions and jokes and drunken rants. My problem is that I often get high and don't want to listen to anyone or do anything while I am. God, I hate weed. I like getting high but I don't like being high. And it has nothing to do with forming an opinion, in fact, it shuts out new ideas. It makes you dwell. It makes me sloppy. I know I am not the same person. Maybe at heart, we truly never change but I know my ways are different. As are my tastes opinions and critiques. I'm doing the same things and so it is assumed that I have not progressed. Maybe I haven't. Maybe I'm just waiting for someone, anyone to catch up to me. To maintain pace instead of rushing to meet as many people as they can or see as much as they can without even taking it in. Doing things for the sake of saying you did them. With no comprehended part of it and the place you took in doing it.

And good god I find myself buried amidst the pictures of hot girld thread and the other general shit that clutters the space that seems so vast. But where does all of this bullshit actually go? somewhere...I'm telling you, it ends up somewhere. And when it overflows, we're going to be fucking swallowed in the force that is the overflowing internet. It's going to crack, then break and flood the human mind. We will malfunction and die in mass numbers. Us in the civilized world. We will all perish in the nonsense that is the world wide web. But this web has a spider just like any other, waiting, waiting for us to flee the flood and get trapped in its sticky sweet thread of death. Mmmm......human.

Something has come to my attention. But it doesn't matter because another has come to take its place. This isn't a forward kind of motion. Emotion breeds logic. Human being as a verb. This man exists in a gaseous state. Inhale, exhale, moist inner lining filled with goop and chemical compounds. Human being as an experiment. A random congregation of elements and chemicals and motion. We leak them; a faulty machine we are. Not realizing that we are artificial intelligence in the basic sense. A.I is human life; the world created within our own machine has bred machines that when they are made, will not be able to fathom that their being isn't natural. Human being isn't natural. Its a mess.

But perhaps mess breeds concept.

Conceptualization of mind will then create a work of art. Be careful of this word, art. Art is the ability of a human to add shape to the mind's display. A foray into intelligence. Photography is not art, to provide example. Photography is a manipulation of time. It is a visual representation of a past event. Indeed no image can be of the future and still it cannot be of the present. Photography is its own thing. But do not call it art. It is physical evidence of an event. A photograph is an image imprinted. Therefor, what kind of images has the universe left in full display for all to see? Understand this contemplation of life, please. Image is a light display. This concept is haunting and to put it simple, I have no clue how on earth a human mind projected their art into something that isn't a form of art, but a captor of a point in time. Its creepy. I know, I can go on google right now and search all the specifics and definitions and explanations of how a camera is a camera and a photograph a photograph. But how did someone invent this device? It truly is a manipulation of time. So if man can create this kind of device that manipulates, distorts and captures time in visual format, why then can we not create other devices that manipulate time? Time travel is but a small aspect to this. I want to see the plane of our dimension shift with a manipulation device.

I am happy to comment on your several musings, Dynamic Threads. I have done a similar exercise at many a site, although arguably in a more sequential and philosophical process, inviting readers to engage with me. I will, therefore, post this piece of my writing which is not that different from your own in your many posts at this thread. My piece rambles-on but differently. I hope you find it provides a useful contribution to the ideas you raise.-Ron price, Tasmania
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Since there are so many questions raised and issues discussed concerning people’s basic assumptions about life, about their philosophy, about their religious beliefs, indeed, about their very approach to reality and the way their society goes about organizing things, it seemed like a useful exercise, useful at least to me and hopefully to some others at this site, to say a few things about: My Position and Beliefs: My Religion. I do this at this site and dozens of other sites on the internet and I use this post as an opening note. I hope to solicit responses from others and engage in a useful dialogue. Some readers will find this post too long. For such readers I advise they simply not bother reading this post. The following paragraphs set some of the context for that dialogue which I hope follows from this opening post.

Religion, in the sense that I am using it here, is the set of values, beliefs and attitudes each of us has as we go about our daily life at a particular moment in time, in this case, at the time of my writing of this post on the internet and in the case of the person reading this post, at the time of the response of that reader to what he has just read in my writing. Religion is also the set of assumptions one brings to their life. One of the essential features of assumptions is that they cannot be proved. They are just givens at the centre of one’s meaning system. My apologetics, then, is strengthened by the common witness and testimony of my fellow human beings about the role of values, beliefs and attitudes in our lives and in relation to the world in which we live.

The religion I belong to---the set of values, beliefs and attitudes that represent my life as a member of the Bahá'í Faith---is an outgoing and dynamic organization. It is not distracted by internal controversy as many if not most other religions are in their spiritual life. It is a Faith highly focussed on the new Revelation of Bahá'u'lláh, the Bahá'í Faith’s Prophet-Founder and this Faith is responsive to the world’s need for united action. I hope this opening note of over 2500 words provides a general, a useful, a helpful context for any continuing discussion you and I may have. If the note I strike is too long, as I say, I advise readers to just click me off or stop reading when you feel your mind is glazing over. This is a simple enough exercise of the hand and the mind. I do this all the time in our print-glut world. Readers do not know much about the Baha'i Faith can google the official international Baha'i site at: bahai.org. -Ron Price in Tasmania, Australia, last updated 31 March 2012.
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Apologetics is a branch of systematic theology, although some experience its thrust in religious studies or philosophy of religion courses. Some encounter it on the internet for the first time in a more populist and usually much less academic form. As I see it, apologetics is primarily concerned with the protection of a position, the refutation of the issues raised by that position's assailants and, in the larger sense, the exploration of that position in the context of prevailing philosophies and standards in a secular society, a religious society, indeed, any society past or present. All of us defend our positions whatever these positions are: atheistic, theistic, agnostic, humanistic, sceptic, cynic, realist, pragmatist and any one of a multitude of religions, denominations, sects, cults, isms and wasms.

Apologetics, to put it slightly differently, is concerned with answering both general and critical inquiries from others. In the main, though, apologetics deals with criticism of a position and dealing with that criticism in as rational a manner as possible. Apologetics can help explore the teachings of a religion or of a philosophy in the context of the prevailing religions and philosophies of the day as well as in the context of the common laws and standards of a secular society. Although the capacity to engage in critical self-reflection on the fundamentals of some position is a prerequisite of the task of engaging in apologetics, apologetics derives much of its impetus from a commitment to a position.

Given the role of apologetics in religious and philosophical history and in the development of the texts and ideas that are part and parcel of that history, it is surprising that contemporary communities generally undervalue its importance and often are not even aware of the existence of this sub-discipline of philosophy. Authors, writers, editors of journals and leaders known for defending points in arguments, for engaging in conflicts or for taking up certain positions that receive great popular scrutiny and/or are minority views engage in what today are essentially forms of secular apologetics.

Anyone concerned with the history of apologetics is also involved with the history of hermeneutics and they all confront the question of interpretation. Questions of interpretation concern biblical interpreters. They concern lawyers who debate the meaning of the Constitution. They concern psychiatrists as they reflect upon their interpretation of case histories, and anthropologists and historians who ponder the data of their disciplines.

Naturally in life, we all take positions on all sorts of topics, subjects, religions and philosophies. Often that position is inarticulate and poorly thought out if given any thought at all. With that said, though, the apologetics I engage in here is a never-ending exercise with time out for the necessary and inevitable quotidian tasks of life: eating, sleeping, drinking and a wide range of leisure activities. The apologetics that concerns me is not so much Christian or Islamic apologetics or one of a variety of those secular apologetics, apologetics that have nothing to do with the traditional religions, I referred to above, but Baha'i apologetics.

A positive and articulate apologetics keeps dialogue from becoming pallid, platitudinous, and degutted, as one writer put it.(1) Further, it should be born in mind that apologetics cannot be reduced merely to justification and defence of the propositions of some position. Apologetics is implicit in all western worldviews and socio-political systems either secular or theistic. The pragmatics of theological thinking, indeed all Western thinking, remain determined by what may be called the apologetic method. But religious apologetics is also an attempt to make faith meaningful to a secular world.
Bahá'í apologetics, as I see it anyway, is a responsible apologetics. That is, it is: non-autocratic, rational, and a responsible and faithful transmission of the beliefs of the covenantal community by its scholars to succeeding generations. Bahá'í apologetics, moreover, while it may be committed apologetics, seeks to respect the spirit of the non-normative, non-confessional science of religion in the light of confessional faith.

As a Bahá'í whatever proof I offer about my beliefs as I try to help others to make sense of them, this proof I offer is relative. It depends on the total context of the statements which I make. It depends on the explicit and implicit conventions concerning their meaning as well as the experiential component of my statements and much else. My findings, rooted as they are in subjectivity, relativism and pragmatism, can be verified only by individuals capable of assuming and willing to assume my point of view. To put this another way, the verification of my ideas requires of those with whom I engage in dialogue that they know something about my position, my beliefs. This is true in all scientific endeavour: in the physical and biological sciences, in the social sciences and in the various studies in the humanities of which religion is but one of these many fields.

One can be convinced of the truth of something, have a sense of certitude and know little to nothing at all about the object. Sometimes faithful self-abandonment is more valuable than cerebral consent and sometimes it isn't. Society and the millions of individuals in it are caught in cross-fires between noncommitment, scepticism, cynicism and defensiveness on the one hand and the upholding of categorical imperatives, the justifying of arbitrary absolutes, the insistence on finality and agreement, irrational commitment and aggressiveness on the other.

This is the general climate in which apologetics takes place with an interdependence of diverse points of view, with passionate expressions and proofs all lying along linking lines and lines that cannot be linked. The world has become very complex for the votaries its multitudinous faith positions.

There are many points of comparison and contrast between any form of apologetics which I won't go into here. Readers here might like to check out Wikipedia for a birds-eye-view of the subject. Christians and Muslims will have the opportunity to defend their respective religions by the use of apologetics; secular humanists can also argue their cases if they so desire here. I in turn will defend the Baha'i Faith by the use of apologetics. In the process each of us will, hopefully, learn something about our respective Faiths, our religions, our various and our multitudinous positions, some of which we hold to our hearts dearly and some of which are of little interest.

At the outset, then, in this my first posting, my intention is simply to make this start, to state what you might call "my apologetics position." This brief statement indicates, in broad outline, where I am coming from in the weeks and months ahead. -Ron Price with thanks to Udo Schaefer, "Baha'i Apologetics?" Baha'i Studies Review, Vol. 10, 2001/02.
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I want in this second part of my first posting to finish outlining, as best I can, my basic orientation to Baha’i apologetics. To save me reinventing the wheel so to speak, may I suggest--as I did earlier--that readers here google the official Bahá'í site at bahai.org so that they have some idea what the Bahá'í faith is, what are its teachings and its history. Then these same readers can post a reply to this post with specific questions and critiques. Critical scholarly contributions or criticism raised in public or private discussions, an obvious part of apologetics, should not necessarily be equated with hostility. Questions are perfectly legitimate, indeed, necessary aspects of a person's search for an answer to an intellectual conundrum. Paul Tillich, that great Protestant theologian of the 20th century, once expressed the view that apologetics was an "answering theology."-Paul Tillich, Systematic Theology, U. of Chicago, 1967, Vol.1, p6.
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I have always been attracted to the founder of the Baha'i Faith's exhortations in discussion to "speak with words as mild as milk," with "the utmost lenience and forbearance." This form of dialogue, its obvious etiquette of expression and the acute exercise of judgement involved, is difficult for most people when their position is under attack from people who are more articulate, better read and better at arguing both their own position and the position of those engaged in the written criticism than they are. I am also aware that, in cases of rude or hostile attack, rebuttal with a harsher tone, the punitive rebuttal, may well be justified, although I prefer humour, irony and even gentle sarcasm rather than hostile written attack in any form. Still, it does not help an apologist to belong to those "watchmen" whom the prophet Isaiah calls "dumb dogs that cannot bark."(Isaiah, 56:10)

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In its essence apologetics is a kind of confrontation, an act of revealing one's true colours, of hoisting the flag, of demonstrating the essential characteristics of one's faith, of one's thought, of one's emotional and intellectual stance in life. “Dialogue does not mean self-denial,” wrote Hans Kung, arguably the greatest of Catholic apologists. The standard of public discussion of controversial topics should be sensitive to what is said and how; it should be sensitive to manner, mode, style, tone and volume. Tact is also essential. Not everything that we know should always be disclosed; not everything that can be disclosed it timely or suited to the ears of the hearer. To put this another way, we don't want all our dirty laundry out on our front lawn for all to see or our secrets blasted over the radio and TV. Perhaps a moderate confessionalism is best here, if confession is required at all—and in today’s print and electronic media it seems unavoidable.

I want to thank Udo Schaefer, "Baha'i Apologetics," Baha'i Studies Review, Vol.10--2001/2, for some of what I write here. Schaefer, a prominent Baha’i writer, scholar, lawyer and man of many intellectual seasons, emphasizes that one's views, one's faith, should not be opportunistically streamlined, adapting to current trends, thus concealing the real features of these views, features that could provoke rejection in order to be acceptable for dialogue. To do this, to be opportunistic and saying what others want to hear often puts one in the danger of losing one's identity, if not one’s honesty and integrity.

It is almost impossible, though, to carry the torch of truth, partial truth, of one’s convictions, indeed, of any set of words in any colour, through a crowd without getting someone's beard singed. If one has no beard one’s emotions can be equally fried and hung out to dry in the process of verbal or written exchange. In the weeks and months that follow, my postings quite possibly may wind up singing the beards of some readers and, perhaps, my own. Emotions, if not fried when exposed, are often behind barricades of self-defence and that is natural because what is being considered is at the centre of a person’s life. Such are the perils of dialogue, of apologetics.

Much of Baha'i apologetics derives from the experience Baha'is have of a fundamental discrepancy between much secular thought and the Baha'i teachings on the other. In some ways, the gulf is unbridgeable but so, too, is this the case between the secular and much thought in the Christian or Islamic religion or, for that matter, between variants of Christianity or even within what are often the muddy and pluralistic waters of secular thought itself.

Anyway, that's all for now. It's back to the autumn winds of Tasmania, about 5 kms from the Bass Straight on the Tamar River. The geography of place is so much simpler than that of the philosophical and religious geography that the readers at this site are concerned with, although even physical geography has its complexities as those who take a serious interest in the topic of climate change are fast finding out. Whom the gods would destroy they first make simple and simpler and simpler. I look forward to a dialogue with someone, anyone who is inclined to respond to what I’m sure for some is this overly long post. Here in far-off Tasmania--the last stop before Antarctica, if one wants to get there by some other route than off the end of South America--your response will be gratefully received.-Ron Price, Tasmania, Australia.

Um. I have been meaning to write in this threads for the pabst month or so. Is the title still not "Thread To Generally Express In A Non-Spoken Manner"?

I often wonder. Always is my mind, it would seem. But I do grow weary, very weary. This human expression of mine, is it not of your kind? Talk about missing the point. And I think I am to my own point. A reserved point in time. I know what it is, this life of mine.

Fuck. I don't know how to put it more blunt. I am expressing my mind and trying to communicate with what I would hope are similar expressive minds. The initial post is an explanation, do not acknowledge from here on out anything else anyone posts. Just post your little heart out. But please, if you post, HAVE SOMETHING TO OFFER THAT IS YOUR OWN ON THE SPOT INTERPRETATION OF YOUR OWN THOUGHT PROCESS.

For fucks sake.

lol my sig isa fucked up ill fix that now

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derp derp spamming my own thread depr derp

P.S. I admit I was hesitant to say a rather blunt, blasphemous, and obvious statement with my initial new post. I believe MusicMan said it best in another thread. So I will refrain. Even though I really do want to go off.

Originally Posted by Dynamic Threads

Get out of my thread if you are going to be a [insert offensive word here], kthx. See, you have provided a perfect example of the lack of intelligence and sophistication ever so lacking in today's social class. You are exactly the type of [insert insult here] who ruins the idea of a forum and the idea of music. When the [profanity] is this kind of [insult] going to stop? Go sign onto twitter or something and stop [profanity] up my thread.

EDIT: And seriously, [insult], get out of the thread if you aren't going to add to it in a respectable manner.

This.